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pollo mannaro
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 Inserito il - 02/03/2012 : 15:04:01
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| Trambuccone ha scritto:
Se non sei sposato : , agli occhi ci tengo.
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I polli (per quanto mannari) non sono interessati al matrimonio per evidenti mancanze "gravi".
Raccolgo con piacere e ricambio con affetto.
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Inserito il - 02/03/2012 : 16:00:50
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Quanto alla mobilia, beh, un armadio a 13 antas (12 +1) sarebbe quello che risolverebbe parte dei miei problemi...
Dove lo posso ordinare?
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Ricardo
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Inserito il - 05/03/2012 : 08:01:31
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Great!
Tell us whether we can help.
I hope you’ll update us about your interesting research.
In particular I’m quite interested in a possible connection between the neo-punic environment developed inside the Rome empire (e.g South Spain&Portugal, Northern Africa&Sardinia) and the burial typology known as cupae-tombs.
Stay in touch!
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I will definitely let you know how my research is going. It is a complex problem, and Sardinia has some very interesting semicilyndrical monuments, some of which seem to me to be very important even for the discussion on what we should be calling cupa or not. It seems to me (with little certainty) archaeologists there tend to call the stone ones cippi a botte and the ones made in brick and mortar cupae, but it's not an easy proposition to make. The boundaries of the term are difficult to determine and some of the monuments in Sardinia are essential for that.
Let me give you some examples:
This one - CIL X 7631 - what shall we call it? it's very similar to cupae from the Iberian peninsula, Italy, North Africa. But can we call it semicilyndrical? I'll go with cupa all the same as a generic term.
This is CIL X 7703, from Cagliari. I really wish I had a photo of this monument! Can anyone get me one? It's extremely similar to monuments in the south of Portugal. Are there more exactly like barrels in Sardegna?
What about this one? I wish I had a good photo of it; can anyone get me one? It's in Museo Archeologico Nazionale in Cagliari. It is similar to the previous one. Is it a cupa?
Got to go now, but more will follow...
Thanks for all the help!
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Inserito il - 05/03/2012 : 09:20:06
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I will definitely let you know how my research is going.
Thanks for all the help!
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Hi Ricardo
Thanks a lot (obrigado). Your work is really quite interesting.
Let me check your pics, I'll do my best to find what you are asking for.
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pollo mannaro
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Inserito il - 05/03/2012 : 10:25:06
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CIL X 7703
For this Ref. try the following link (PDF; in Italian):
http://www.sardegnacultura.it/docum...01172605.pdf
see page 251 note 501; maybe you know this book since it shows your pic. (same page);
As you can see it is a book by Pais edited by prof Mastino; this latter can be contacted at Università di Sassari (rettore@uniss.it; public mail from net); you could ask him for a good pic (when existing! );
(http://www.crui.it/HomePage.aspx?ref=1017)
Ciao
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Inserito il - 05/03/2012 : 11:05:43
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CIL X 7631
Quoted in the following PDF (Italian by prof Zucca) page 32 note 51; original ref. you need for a description is : Sotgiu, Epigrafia latina, E 7 b; you can obtain a copy of the paper by interlibrary exchange; (http://www.edr-edr.it/Italiano/Italia_it.php )
http://eprints.uniss.it/7099/1/Zucc...pdf%20br%20/
Ciao
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Inserito il - 05/03/2012 : 11:30:13
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About the last pic, I believe it is not; finding a good pic as you need is quite difficult without a cat. number.
In any case I’ll do my best.
(You could try contacting the:
Museo archeologico di Cagliari
Soprintendenza per i Beni Archeologici per le province di Cagliari e Oristano:
sba-ca@beniculturali.it)
Regards
PS . Ricardo, please let me know if you are interested in Northafrican burials too.
Ciao
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Inserito il - 05/03/2012 : 12:30:23
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I am interested in all roman semicylindrical funerary monuments, because I am trying to get as large a perspective as I can. I know they are very common in North Africa, and some of them are very similar in shape to the ones we have in the Lisbon region, where I live, except the ones over here are made in stone.
If you are interested send me a private message with your e-mail and I'll send you an article I wrote about the cupae from this area.
Now I'm going to check out the latest of your very useful contributions. Thanks a lot once again!
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Inserito il - 05/03/2012 : 13:01:58
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If you are interested send me a private message with your e-mail and I'll send you an article I wrote about the cupae from this area.
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Obrigado Ricardo.
My e-mail is public
pollo.mannaro@virgilio.it
I'll appreciate a lot, really
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Inserito il - 05/03/2012 : 14:12:49
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Hello, Pollo!
| CIL X 7703
For this Ref. try the following link (PDF; in Italian):
http://www.sardegnacultura.it/docum...01172605.pdf
see page 251 note 501; maybe you know this book since it shows your pic. (same page);
As you can see it is a book by Pais edited by prof Mastino; |
Yes, I took my image from that pdf. It is the same image printed in CIL X. There is a partial photo in CIL online:
http://cil.bbaw.de/cil_en/dateien/c...2586fc58f7e0
There is also a drawing of the inscriptions here:
http://people.unica.it/mcorda/files...a_TAVOLE.pdf
I will write Prof. Mastino to see if I have any luck. Thanks for the tip.
| CIL X 7631
Quoted in the following PDF (Italian by prof Zucca) page 32 note 51; original ref. you need for a description is : Sotgiu, Epigrafia latina, E 7 b; |
I found that same article by Sotgiu here in the library of the Museum I work in, in the magazine Aufstieg und Niedergang der Römischen Welt, II, 11.1. It only has a short reference.
I found a more interesting reference in Studi Sardi, vol. XXXIV, 2009, in an article by Piergiorgio Floris (right after another one by Franco Porrà about a different type of cupae from Sedilo). I have to read it carefully now. So much to read, and time doesn't stretch...
What I'd really like would be for someone to get me photocopies of the following articles that I am not being able to find around here:
STEFANI, G., I cippi a botte della provincia Sardinia, in Nuovo Bullettino Archeologico Sardo, 3 (1986), pp. 115-160.
BONELLO LAI, M., Il simbolo dell’ascia nelle iscrizioni funerarie della sardegna, in Nuovo Bullettino Archeologico Sardo, 1, 1984 [1986], pp. 201-227
Out of curiosity, here are some portuguese cupae for you to see...
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Inserito il - 05/03/2012 : 16:34:26
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@Ricardo
Got it!
Thanks a lot. I'll read it asap.
Bye
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Inserito il - 05/03/2012 : 16:44:49
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@Ricardo
A question: may I give the paper to other people?
Ciao
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Inserito il - 05/03/2012 : 17:11:33
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Yes, you can, if you find it adequate.
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Inserito il - 05/03/2012 : 17:44:59
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I'm interested in the paper. May I have it too? 
You both arised my endless curiosity...
T.
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